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Relationships change...

Postby cherrypie » Wed May 24, 2017 2:20 pm

Hi there,

I have a question for you: did you experience a change in your relationships when you started being a witch? It is not that I consider myself a witch, but I have clearly noticed that a lot has changed, within me, and without. I don't go out that often anymore because I prefer being at home, or in my garden, in nature...nature is my safe haven, my refuge, the place where I can breathe and fill up my energies, my Shangri-La (sorry, I have listened to a lot of Mother Love Bone..well, their only album, because I just couldn't take listening to Chris Cornell....I'm deeply sad, deeply, deeply sad, I have to say. Almost half of my life this man was a constant companion :'(...).

I do have a lot of acquaintances, good acquaintances, but lately (well, since more than a year), I just don't seem to speak the same language as they do. They are interested in completely different things which mean less and less to to me, my interests have changed quite a bit :-). It is not that I feel lonely, far from it, but it seems that almost everybody out there is so different from me :? .

I find this rather amusing, to see this change, and I wonder what has caused all this, but I clearly seem more attracted to nature than to humans at the moment. I function perfectly fine in society :lol: , but I enjoy my "other side" which I have only started to explore.

Has anybody of you felt the same?

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby Lord_of_Nightmares » Wed May 24, 2017 2:47 pm

Yeah it's normal. You start valuing things others don't. Because of this your attitude changes about what is really important.
I am the Earth, The Sun and the Stars
And I am the also the Moon
I am all animal and birds,
And I am the outcast as well, and the thief
I am the low person of dreadful deeds,
And the great person of excellent deeds
I am Female. I am Male and I am Neuter.
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Postby SpiritTalker » Wed May 24, 2017 5:31 pm

I noticed I became more confident doing what I was already doing, but without feeling I was somehow wrong for being myself. I've always been out of step with my peers goals and values. And now I know it's ok that I am. I function fine in society, I just don't follow society.

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby cherrypie » Thu May 25, 2017 3:28 am

Thanks! That's exactly how I feel! In the beginning it was strange, but now I feel pretty happy about this, makes me more free inside, I suppose :-)

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Postby planewalker » Thu May 25, 2017 5:48 am

I came up through all my years with the Arts. It just made me a chameleon. I know how I feel most comfortable, and it has changed at different periods during my life. Some people know I practice and others don't. I don't hide it or push the point. I find it to be the easiest to just let it flow naturally.

I don't know the music you reference so I can't speak to the exact situation, but if you have had a relationship with someone it will be hard when it ends. You get the things that remind you of the person when you do them. That can turn an OK moment sad. You can hit a time when you stop being busy and your mind can wander to happier times and by comparison it's a sad time right now. What is happening to you is completely normal. I'd be worried if you didn't feel this way. That would mean you weren't dealing with it. That can easily become emotionly destructive.

As long as your not withdrawing from contact with people, as long as your not withdrawing from society, you will make it through this. You may want to try to do more with acquaintances. You may find a friend you didn't know you had. You never know what will happen by chance just being out in the world. No matter what happens it will not change the relationship you had. You will always carry that in a special place in your heart. Things in your past don't change because your following your future.

Wounds heal even though it doesn't seem like it right now. The energy you put into healing your emotions comes back to you. Energy is never destroyed, only it's state changes. Someone wiser than I said: "Don't be sorry that things have changed. Be happy you had the experience to begin with. Some will never know that joy and belonging." PM me anytime. I'm on and off the forum all the time. I'm crippled up & look at 4 walls a lot. I'm part AmerInd so nature is my second language. You can probably tell I love to talk (type).
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Re: Relationships change...

Postby cherrypie » Thu May 25, 2017 1:22 pm

Thanks, Planewalker! The music or musician I referred to is Chris Cornell, singer of Soundgarden, one of the "pillars" of Seattle Grunge. It is just sad because their/his music was part of half of my life, and now he took his own life, hanged himself, probably due to an overdose of anxiety meds. He was only 52, such a gifted and talented man, such a waste...

No, I don't withdraw from people, and it is certainly not due to the death of CC...it just makes me sad. This has, however, nothing to do with what I asked in my posting :D . This is due to a development I'm going through. I like to see it as a growing, and I like it. I just wanted to know if anyone here has felt the same :)

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Postby planewalker » Thu May 25, 2017 2:05 pm

I though it was a relationship with a partner that had ended. I guess I read to much into it. The invitation to PM me still stands. You can always point me in a new musical direction. I new grunge existed, but hadn't thought much more about it. Of course that shows in my over-reaction to your post. OOOPS!

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Postby SnowCat » Thu May 25, 2017 2:26 pm

I gradually became less materialistic. I still love tattoos though. I have one more that I really want. It's going to be pricey. But overall, I am more interested in experiences than things.

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby Shawn Blackwolf » Thu May 25, 2017 3:16 pm

Hello , Cherry Pie ;

I started my magical mystical journey in the 1960's - 70's.

Hitching around the country , communes , alternative communities ,
all were my growing space , including shamanic and witchy folk
interactions , so my societal experience was already outside the norm ,
yet the society I was traveling in *was* my norm.

Years later , in 76 , I spent a few years in the wild French quarter in New Orleans ,
with the crazy times , crazy folk , cajun culture and the voodoo crowd.

Then a number of years in the mountains of Arizona , living in a hundred year old
cabin with no electricity , and my friends were the eagles , hawks , snakes , gila
monsters , scorpions and coyotes , and I was still exploring various forms of Craft
and Shamanic ways.

Finally , I came into what most would call society , yet even that was outside the
Americana idea of norm , as it was Santa Cruz , Ca. , not known for toeing the line
as a city , even by California standards.

College town as well , so large variety of folk , but many alternative , so hiding who
I was was never a thought. ( first city in U.S. to pass a law you could not discriminate
against someone for housing or employment due to tattoos , dredlocks , colored hair ,
or if they were doing ritual in the place you rented them ).

Many years there , then Eugene , Oregon at the height of the counterculture / anarchist
movement there...see the pattern ? LOL.

Of course , in the many years of the journey , my jobs were things such as running two
businesses , one natural essences and oils , the other visionary art , representing 160 artists ,
and setting up gallery shows at alternative or pagan fairs , being in the middle of the "New Age"
movement as one of the "movers and shakers" of the time.

Thus , again , my society was the alternative folk. I kept growing , learning and becoming more,
yet the constant was who and what I surrounded myself with. ( by the way one of my friends in
Santa Cruz , who I saw almost every day playing on the street in the 80's , was Artis , Mr. Spoonman
himself , re: Soundgarden ) As I said I hung out with the alternative crowd.LOL

Then I was given two wolves by a native medicine person , and moved to the Northern Ca. coast
where I still reside , teaching the Witchcraft , carving antler and bone , and living in an area both
remote and removed from regular "norm" of society in general , as this has long been known as
"renegade territory" for a number of reasons. ( google Northern California Emerald Triangle )

So , to wind this up and make a statement , I do not feel it is the individual that is different that
needs to fit into any society , nor should we ever even think of feeling we are out of place , or
have to withdraw from society due to how we grow , or what we are , or become.

We just have to find and surround ourselves with the society that is our norm , as that is a external
manifestation of our inner essence , so to speak. I look around when I travel into the big city madness
which for me can be a city of 10,000 people ( LOL ) , and look at what they surround themselves with
and I don't feel out of place. I just wonder which dysfunctional alternative universe they fell out of
into my territory. LOL

Perception is a most wonderful thing !

Best to you !

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby planewalker » Thu May 25, 2017 4:04 pm

Shawn,

Isn't that the area that wanted to succeed from California? Sounds like good "growing" territory. I'm part AmerInd but a germ that layed me low means I can't "inhale deeply" of my culture as much anymore. I do mix up a good herbal tonic now and again, but only when I have the few days when my wife can cover for me. I've been known to "Walk and Quest" for a while. One time a cop got the wrong address for a disturbance A&B call. He had to knock on the door, and knock on the door, and knock on the window, and knock on.... you get the idea.

When he finally found her window and then got a call to check for someone pounding on the window at our address and the cop on the phone telling my wife to please go to the front door to talk to the cop at the door. He asked her if he could please just come into the front room of the house for his report. She let him in, never thinking about the fact that I was laying there in a hospital bed, dead to the world. It was 3 AM and she was 1/2 asleep. I sleep there if I'm having a bad night or if I'm "walking".

He asked why I didn't wake up. She said I was a sound sleeper. He gave her the Hairy Eyeball and said it looked like I was overdosed, since he watched and couldn't see my chest move. He thought I might be dead. It wasn't over! He stepped over and felt my pulse[so I was told] at the wrist, then at the neck and then felt for resparation on my chest. He then told my wife that he was so sorry I must have died in my sleep, not be heavily asleep.

He was going to call the coroner until she got out the O2/pulse meter that she uses to make sure I'm not dead, so she could prove I was alive. She said he was the most wierded out, confused cop she had ever seen. He was talking to himself all the way to his patrol car, she told me.
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Re: Relationships change...

Postby cherrypie » Sun May 28, 2017 10:24 am

Hi Shawn,

thanks for this beautiful answer - it hit me right in my core :-) Would love to have you as my teacher, I'm sure I could learn pretty much. But, on the other hand, I enjoy learning on my own, following no way, just do it my way and in my own pace.

I don't feel like things need to change(as with regards to the people I surround myself). Change will come when it needs to come. I'm rather observing...where this leads me, whom I will become. It's kind of an adventure. And I even had much fun last evening with many of those people I talked about in my opening post :lol: Again a proof that it is all about my own perception. It is so true, but I always need reminders.

I'm looking forward to what will come my way. It already was a very interesting last year, and I know there is lies more ahead.

Thanks for Artis, the Spoonman, that was kind of comforting :D - the fact that you know him and you found my posting and answered cannot be pure coincidence, I'm sure. And even if it is, it is a very good coincidence. Still grief for my musical hero, but he's with old and long-missed friends now, I'm sure.


Planewalker,

Grunge doesn't really exist anymore, but there are a few left that still, in a way, keep its spark in their music alive. I just loved Grunge, and I surely still do smiley_dance

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby Newbiewitch94 » Mon May 29, 2017 3:36 am

Yep this has happened to me
I used to go to a store to play table top wargames every weekend but since becoming a wiccan and a witch its honestly lost its appeal to me. I prefer to be by myself either in the house or randomly going to parks just to be one with nature. I've also found where as previously I may of been interested in finding Mr right now I'm no longer bothered. Its not so bad though I'm loving my path right now and I prefer to walk it alone.

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby planewalker » Mon May 29, 2017 4:47 am

May I inquire what table top war games you enjoyed? I too was a "gamer" but friends have drifted in different directions as happens when one gets ancient.

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Re: Relationships change...

Postby MsMollimizz » Mon May 29, 2017 10:54 pm


I've been Pagan as long as I can remember...
I've just recently started referring to myself
as a witch. I'm still changing ! My interests
have changed over time, also. Especially
after meeting someone who has become a
good friend and also has led me to my current
Goddess; Hekate, who in turn has also introduced
me to Lilith, who I plan on working with also.
One never knows where life will take you at
each turn. Don't ignore it, let it flow and follow
it to where it takes you. The new "place" you
find yourself at can be full of surprises...trust
me it does. One of my places it took me was
working with the carnival for 12 years, they
picked me up hitch-hiking ! I love that time
in my life, I learned a lot and made some
awesome friends, and made lots of money !
Now-a-days, I'm in a transition phase right
now. Learning a life lesson, which is always
important in the long run. Building knowledge
at this time and adding to my BOS, my Book
of Mirrors(magickal journal), and writing my
frustrations down in a regular journal too.
Usually helps me to write stuff down with the
actual pen and paper, most the time my keyboard
on the laptop cannot handle my angrily beating
on the keys...LOL !
Look around every corner cause you don't know
what you might see !
I wish you well on your journey !
My door is always open, come sit and have a cup
of tea or___, and ask away !
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Re: Relationships change...

Postby cherrypie » Tue May 30, 2017 12:07 am

:kiss: :kiss: Thanks to all - I feel a sense of belonging!


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