ricochet love spell

[tak]

Hello,

I have a question, years ago during my teenage years I was quite popular with girls in my neighborhood, being a shy individual I always felt uncomfortable with the attention and never took advantage of possibilities. At the time a few girls were pushing themselves with two in particular, one of them who I highly suspect of being a witch. It isn't a suspicion actually, all the signs are there from her appearance to what she had confided to me, things she would bring up in conversation. Now that I look back at it, and am more informed, putting two and two together is easy, I think she tried to put a love spell on me, but it didn't work out for her.

It was new years eve, me and a group of friends were lighting fireworks through the neighborhood. I met her while passing through her street, greeting, celebrating new year with a kiss. What I remember from this moment is we held hands, both hands (like making a circle), not a normal kissing stance for me. I don't know if it was the smoke from the fireworks, light intoxication and being high, but after the kisses it felt like slow motion for a bit. She looked me in the eyes, while making a pirouette like move, smiled while I stumbled backwards towards my friends.

Not long after this moment, going through the streets celebrating, I met the other girl who had been after me for a very long time. She grabbed me by both hands and we kissed, same effect. A warm feeling, time slowing down, like the spell didn't fully realize and there was still residue magick left .

Maybe I'm a over romanticizing memories, kissing girls will always have effect on (shy) young men , but I have been with the second girl for 20 years now. Not long after new year we hooked up and never been apart since. Not that a spell was needed for us to bind, I fancied her the most long beforehand, but I'm intrigued by the magnetic pull I felt from the spell I suspect casted.

Are there examples of love spells bouncing of to someone else, is this a known issue with spells not being cast correctly?

Isn't it morally debatable to try and win someone over through magick?

[Seraphin]

This is my personal opinion regarding this. If you're magick you're using has the ability to change and bend the rules of nature and will of a person, then I believe it's unethical. Someone who subverts the system of nature and will of a person, by constantly using the magickal and spiritual energizes and forces, is going against the law of nature.

In those instances where I as a magick practitioner have used forces above nature, I always make sure my magick is a request to the higher worlds, has an aim of establishing "truths" and should not represent "interference" in anyone's greater spiritual, emotional or physical development. To make this all possible, I always informed people about my plan of performing magick on them beforehand and ask their permission.

It's perfectly possible for us to impose our will on another person or situation through love spells and other magickal means, but this pushes the universe out of balance. It takes a continuous effort of will to keep the magick working against someone's will (unlike if you ask their consent) or working against the natural flow. Magick like this usually rebound to its correct structure. This will cause the magick to catapult back to its creator and also to the person under his/her enchantment.

It is at this point that the danger of real love spells exist. A person who seems frustrated and discontent about what is currently occurring to his/her love life, has tapped into this more higher world and come upon a melange of all sorts of energies, forces and spirits.

For me, the litmus test of "magick" is morality. Any form of magick and also spiritual works that makes no moral demands on a human being, Nature and the Divine, is bogus or manipulative. If a person practices magick and the content thereof is to only satisfy his/her wants or pleasure by interfering someone's will, it's either bogus or manipulative. It usually is bogus, but in those cases that he has tapped into these powers, it's manipulative.

[tak]

Thanks for your informative answer Seraphin.

On the topic of ethics; I once read about a threefold law that is believed by practitioners of magick , something like karma; what comes around goes around, what energy you put into the world will come back to you. How do people indulging in black magick deal with this?

Do they shield themselves from the spells they put out, somehow mislead the returning force? Are there rituals they have to continuously perform to keep 'save'?

I ask because I recently found out someone has put a bad luck spell on me, dreams have hinted at the person who casted the spell, but for a few years I couldn't put my finger on it. Dreams of the person inviting me to his house having traveled a large distance and leaving me waiting at the intercom downstairs, hearing him laugh through it. Recently the pieces of the puzzle have fallen into place and I remember everything (fyi; I remember clearly since I cut my hand and lost considerate amount of blood, curses are blood bound, no?).

I remember going to sleep and waking up in a twilight morning, something between sleeping and being awake, it felt like being awake inside a dream. I sat up in my bed, eyes open but couldn't move, a most frightening womanly spirit entity appeared in my room and made scratching finger movements in my face, I can't remember pain, but it was the most evil of scares I ever felt, I couldn't move or scream as my mouth felt sewn shut. It didn't last long as from the corner of my eyes, my archangel appeared, a spirit that has saved me before, who I felt was angry at me for letting this evil entity in. She carried her away, both disappearing from my room.

The person who send her was angry at me for being overly negative towards him on the Internet. I admit not being correct , but think this curse was disproportional, very disproportionate compared to my jealousy or trolling.

Lately I feel revenge is in order, I think he deserves retaliation, but maybe the threefold law already got him and should look past this negative episode. I wonder if the demon he send was returned, or how he would deflect, shield himself from her?

[Heartsong]

On the topic of ethics; I once read about a threefold law that is believed by practitioners of magick , something like karma; what comes around goes around, what energy you put into the world will come back to you. How do people indulging in black magick deal with this?

Do they shield themselves from the spells they put out, somehow mislead the returning force? Are there rituals they have to continuously perform to keep 'save'?

I guess to get an answer to your first question, you'd have to ask that particular kind of practitioner. I personally do believe in karma, although not necessarily the three-fold law, as I'm not Wiccan myself (although I started there). In theory, I suppose that anyone that can put up a strong shield and has enough protection wards, and spells, could keep themselves 'safe' from the magical consequences of their actions. However, I believe that would take a great deal of focus and energy, most of which goes into living day to day and that would likely distract the person after a time. Not to mention that the nature of karma itself isn't so much magical as natural. A spell may not bounce back towards them, but something in their daily life could go very wrong at any time, like losing a job or a lover. So, yeah, eventually, I think it's going to come back and bite them in the ass, one way or another.

Lately I feel revenge is in order, I think he deserves retaliation, but maybe the threefold law already got him and should look past this negative episode. I wonder if the demon he send was returned, or how he would deflect, shield himself from her?

Revenge is never a good idea. N-E-V-E-R, never. To get even is not only childish, as it suggests a highly selfish need for someone to suffer the same misery as you (which in turn, is so against everything Wiccans and most Pagans stand for), it's unnecessary.Furthermore, it leads to an ever increasing loop of tit-for-tat that you very well may reap worse repercussions than what you're already experiencing. As I said, the universe tends to take care of itself, even if it isn't as immediate as we would like. It sounds like you're already well protected, so I would leave it be.

[Seraphin]

Thanks for your informative answer Seraphin.

On the topic of ethics; I once read about a threefold law that is believed by practitioners of magick , something like karma; what comes around goes around, what energy you put into the world will come back to you. How do people indulging in black magick deal with this?

Do they shield themselves from the spells they put out, somehow mislead the returning force? Are there rituals they have to continuously perform to keep 'save'?

I also believe in the Law of Karma. It holds that nothing that occurs to human beings is random. Our "actions" create effects that, sooner or later, like a tsunami or a typhoon forming and strengthening over time and distance, strike with shattering and devastating force.

We normally refer to action as something physical like walking or typing. However, action also refers to nonphysical acts such as thoughts, feelings, dreams, intentions or purposes.

I believe it's very possible to incur a karmic debt simply by thinking of, or wishing this to happen, or intending to do something. This is because everything begins with the mind. The physical is only the result of a previous mental action. For example, before my computer or your laptop becomes a physical reality, it must first exist in the mind of it's inventor. Before I wrote this response to you, it must first exist in my mind. And before the sea, the earth and the heavenly bodies appear physically, they must first appear in the mind of the Creator.

I believe any individuals who do something where it's right or wrong will certainly meet the consequence of his/her actions, in this incarnation or the next or the next. A witch's sorcery will revolve back on him/herself perhaps not in this lifetime because of his/her shields and wards but on another lifetime for sure for the soul never forgets. All of his/her sorceries will certainly boomerang flies back to the hands who threw it.

Lately I feel revenge is in order, I think he deserves retaliation, but maybe the threefold law already got him and should look past this negative episode. I wonder if the demon he send was returned, or how he would deflect, shield himself from her?

Yes, revenge is human nature. When someone wrongs us, we want to retaliate. However, taking revenge is an extremely negative thought. I believe all of us should be accustomed to rise above our feelings about these kind of thoughts or emotions. Let us understand and consider all these matters as vanity and emptiness, which are not worth seeking revenge for but "justice".