Gay Rights.

Postby **Addalaide** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:03 pm

One of the comments about how Church and State arnt seperat reminded me of a political comertial being aried in Tennsee, The guy is standing in a church and says "I started out in church like evey one ealse did...I was made to...But i am a better man for it. Vote...blah blah blah" i didnt pay much attention after that.

My Fionce's best friend is gay, hes a sweet guy. Me and him trade recipies, between the both of us, my fionce wont stand a chance on looseing weight.

Oh and "Hell hath no furry like 2 gay guys fighting over one bathroom"

Yeah once gays are alowed to get married i cant wait to watch the devorce court tv shows!

Postby **Addalaide** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 5:25 pm

One of the comments about how Church and State arnt seperat reminded me of a political comertial being aried in Tennsee, The guy is standing in a church and says "I started out in church like evey one ealse did...I was made to...But i am a better man for it. Vote...blah blah blah" i didnt pay much attention after that.

My Fionce's best friend is gay, hes a sweet guy. Me and him trade recipies, between the both of us, my fionce wont stand a chance on looseing weight.

Oh and "Hell hath no furry like 2 gay guys fighting over one bathroom"

Yeah once gays are alowed to get married i cant wait to watch the devorce court tv shows!

Postby **Addalaide** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:57 pm

So sorry about the duble post, my internet hates me

Postby **Witch1693** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:13 pm

it is none of my buisness what gay people do and my best friend is a bi sexual female and one of my good friends is an extrmely gay male. I am there only friends becuas eother people think that they will try to like makeout wiht them, that may betrue with some but not my friends, so yes i think that gay people should get married and i also dont believe in sodomy laws, while we are on the topic.

Postby **Addalaide** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:48 pm

Yeah some people i know hate being around gay people because thay say there always getting hit on.....I have been hit on alot by wemon, and really it is flattering knowing that even your same sex is attracted to you, are guys flattered when men hit on there or just grossed out?

I really think that the reson why it hasnt been alowed is because of the bible, its what sets the standereds in the usa. I really do belive its where all the laws come from, and its where thay go to see whats wright and wrong.And the bible, not so clearly states it isnt right, for christions. I dont think the bible is completly clear about it really.

Gardak · Postby **Gardak** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 1:25 am

I am in support of gay rights. However I am not gay. Altough I do see my right to voice my opinion. People, wheter they are gay or not, should not be looked down upon in any way, shape, or form. They deserve the respect of everyone. Just because they may not think the way others may want them to does not mean they should be hated, feared, ect.

Anyways...That is just what one man thinks...

Postby **Witch1693** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 2:31 pm

Well a guy in school tryed to hit on me and grab me and i just grabbed his hand gently and told him that i am flattered but am not interested.

Alex

Postby **Deirdre** » Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:14 pm

I am 100% for gays to have exactly the same rights as straight people.
Including adopting children, getting married, and things like that.

The thing that annoys me most though is that lesbian/bisexual females are usualy completly accepted, and even considered sexy by most men... But when a man is gay or bisexual he has a lot more difficulties getting accepted...

This is also something i have personaly experienced...
My fiance and me are both bisexual, and i can pretty much tell anyone i want, and no one thinks it is strange or disturbing. But my fiance can't be as open about it, because we know that a lot of the male 'friends' we have would start avoiding him...

Postby **Kristofski** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:31 am

Yeah some people i know hate being around gay people because thay say there always getting hit on.....I have been hit on alot by wemon, and really it is flattering knowing that even your same sex is attracted to you, are guys flattered when men hit on there or just grossed out?

I think (certain) men's masculinity is alot more precorious than women's femininity, and being hit on by another man is very damaging to their own masculinity. Simply the existance of gay, and effeminate, men is a challange to their own masculinity, and as this scares them they respond with violence and agression. By the same token, masculine women are also thretening to these kinds of men, as they are taking on their own masculinity and deconstructing it, which shows that it is not the precious, exclusive thing they think it is.

That's my theory anyway

Oh yeah, and I'm sure alot of woman don't like hanging around a (certain kind) of straight man because they are always getting hit on...

Kristofski xx

Postby **WolfWitch** » Wed Sep 27, 2006 5:52 am

Addalaide: I agree. I have seen to Gay guys go at it over a shower. It's not a pretty sight by any means.

Yeah some people i know hate being around gay people because thay say there always getting hit on.....I have been hit on alot by wemon, and really it is flattering knowing that even your same sex is attracted to you, are guys flattered when men hit on there or just grossed out?

Personally, I was flattered. I'm happy anytime somebody thinks my homely looking mug is cute.

Gardak: Oh if eberyone was as open minded as you. My gay and lesbian friends would not be so affraid to be open about themselves.

Deirdre: This is a sad state of affairs. Guys don't find the idea of two women kissing and making out offensive because they like girls and two of them being affectionate is really attractive to their inner animal. The thought of two dudes doing it however is an affront to their masculinaty, therefore, they abhore it. They can't help but see themselves there and, as is the want of the human animal, they inevitably get curious. they can't help it as curiosity is hardwired into our psychi. It doesn't say anything about them, it's just instinct to be curious. But, this sets off alarms most of the time as our society has made men out to HAVE to be these hulking brutes that don't have emotions and live only to lay as many females as possible.

It's kind of funny. As "evolved" as we are and claim. We look up to, as a society, the most primative and baser idea inside our minds.

Kristofski: I could not have said this better myself. I think your theory is far closer to truth than a lot of guys would want to admit.

WW.

Postby **Peregrine** » Mon Oct 02, 2006 5:53 pm

Straight, but not narrow. I have personally known people both on the internet and in person who are gay and lesbian. I have had lesbians and bisexual women either "hit on me" or tell me they have a crush on me. One of them was a 15-year-old Catholic-turned-Wiccan and while I am flattered to an extent, it is not a situation that I could allow not just because I am "straight" but also the simple fact she was only 15.

I do not know if these words ever actually transpired between the two of them or not, but in any case, it is an excellent point. It is a scene in a movie titled "The Birth of the Beatles," when the manager Brian Epstein first openly admits to being gay to John Lennon. Lennon's response is that he and the other Beatles had already known for some time and it is nothing to be ashamed of, because in a world so full of hate and violence, where is the shame in love?

It is not the fact of being gay or lesbian, just the same kinds of standards I set for straight people too on (mis)conduct and anything else. While I can see a point in the debate over defining marriage, I fail to see the problem with allowing civil unions as they would be called. Some people confuse legalization with approval. One does not necessarily have to approve of anything to see the foolishness and futility in keeping a victimless crime illegal.

Postby **Smolly** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 1:53 pm

im all for gay rights =D
its totally natural and acceptable to me
it always has been.

im very passionate about it like i am my being (ovo)vegetarian.

i know two gay men that got married on the day it was allowed by law.
they are two of the sweetest funniest men i know!

i know a handful of bisexuals and i myself (being at that hormonal age) have experianced my eyes wandering over someone of the same sex (whether i am bisexual or not ill wait til im 18 til i class myself)

i get really annoyed when people have the attitude 'all gay people should be put on an island and shot'
its not infectious and its not your life! they live their own lives and dont say that straight people should die!!!!

Postby **Witch1693** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:02 pm

" Dido "

Postby **IceDragonX** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 2:04 pm

All life should be respected and treated equally, not just gays, but also elders, children, handicaps, the deaf, blind, etc. People who are "different" always get screwed by the ones that deem them unfit to be treated so.

Also I got a question for you smolly. I always get vegetarian and vegan confused. What exactly are you allowed to eat and not allowed to eat as a vegetarian compared to a vegan?

Postby **Pav** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 4:31 pm

I'm with smolly (and i guess everyone else to), a gay person should be allowed to do what they want with their lives, same with bisexuals etc its all just a way of life not something that needs to be stopped or isolated.

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