Shapeshifting

[Firebird]

In all my years I have yet to hear of anyone who can actually change their physical body (without the help of plastic surgery of course)
Shapeshifting is a state of mind rather than changing the shape of your body. It is achieved through glamoring such as Spirit Talker mentioned, trance meditation and/or with props such as animal skins and masks, the Native American bear dance comes to mind.
There are several threads here on shapeshifting. Feel free to read through them.
I'm afraid the movies has given many the wrong idea about these things.

Blessings, Firebird

[The Alchemist]

I will be honest. I confessed that I'm testing the forum members because I wanted in some way to show that I have been in many forums and most of them are full of junk (and to boost my ego, maybe)...And to make you know that I know some shit (excuse me) and I'm okay with sharing some knowledge with other knowledgable mages, because everyone self-develops/improves/works with different types of magick and one just can't know everything...and I'm trying to get the most knowledge I can.
However, I think that this forum is a good one and I'm looking forward and ready to learn something from you.

Area of abilities I can be useful with are spellcasting (situational programming), direct energy manipulation, people influence, trance states etc.

[The Alchemist]

In all my years I have yet to hear of anyone who can actually change their physical body (without the help of plastic surgery of course)
Shapeshifting is a state of mind rather than changing the shape of your body. It is achieved through glamoring such as Spirit Talker mentioned, trance meditation and/or with props such as animal skins and masks, the Native American bear dance comes to mind.
There are several threads here on shapeshifting. Feel free to read through them.
I'm afraid the movies has given many the wrong idea about these things.
Blessings, Firebird

Thanks for the answer, Firebird.
Maybe I'm using the wrong word for what I mean.
It is possible to change your physical aplearance using altered states of consciousness in short dimensions. I'm not saying that you can grow a third hand or something like making your skin green. You can only slightly change your appearance with bio-feedback.
Probably I'm not using the right word, sorry, but I explained what I meant by saying "shapeshifting".

[barker]

I don't get the answers I expected.
I'm asking for a specific technique for shapeshifting......Otherways everyone could answer the question in a philosophical way.

I be telling you Mr. Alchemist, the proof of shapeshifting is beyond freedom. Like Michael Jackson did, like Jesus did. Violet flaming your hair, for example... how could that not be shapeshifting if you actually lived it down..!

[The Alchemist]

I don't get the answers I expected.
I'm asking for a specific technique for shapeshifting......Otherways everyone could answer the question in a philosophical way.

I be telling you Mr. Alchemist, the proof of shapeshifting is beyond freedom. Like Michael Jackson did, like Jesus did. Violet flaming your hair, for example... how could that not be shapeshifting if you actually lived it down..!

I don'understand you Mr. Barker.

[SpiritTalker]

Many years ago I'd had a particularly weird thing occur. I'd gotten a jagged cut on my left thumb that was bothering me. In those days I did twice weekly trance speaking. After one of the sessions with a teaching spirit I noted that the thumb was completely healed with a faint white line scar. 2 days later after the next trance session with the same entity had concluded, I found the cut was back again just as it had been 2 days before. I have no explanation for a temporary physical change, just witnesses.

[barker]

I don't get the answers I expected.
I'm asking for a specific technique for shapeshifting......Otherways everyone could answer the question in a philosophical way.

I be telling you Mr. Alchemist, the proof of shapeshifting is beyond freedom. Like Michael Jackson did, like Jesus did. Violet flaming your hair, for example... how could that not be shapeshifting if you actually lived it down..!

I don'understand you Mr. Barker.

I will conjure up a specific technique for shapeshifting as clear and concise as I can, then. Here we go, white light for specific bodyparts, rainbow for the whole deal.

The definition of shapeshifting: Objective attainment to grace.

The practice ("the rainbow body"):
- Consciously think, what is the perfect form?
- Check in with self, is this perfect form who I am?
- Understand thoughts and feelings until the change is manifest.

Specific bodyparts ("lightwork"): Realise the corresponding quality to the bodypart. eg eyes: identity. And meditate on that transformation.

This works for me.
Cheers, barker

[The Alchemist]

Thank you for the technique but this isn't what I was asking for.

[barker]

Another technique: Stare at the mirror and deliberately look up and down noticing beauty. It all is, if you are healthy enough... Just takes a little open-mindedness.

[The Alchemist]

Another technique: Stare at the mirror and deliberately look up and down noticing beauty. It all is, if you are healthy enough... Just takes a little open-mindedness.

Thank you for this ''technique'' too. The things you're talking about seem to be NLP or something.

[Firebird]

The thing you are asking about, shapeshifting, is the right word, however it is not possible to change your physical appearance. There is a ton of techniques for altering the state of mind that feel like a shift has occurred, so much so that one may feel as though they have fur fangs of claws, etc, perhaps even displaying some character traits. They may even wander the woods in the form they sense they have become, they may also not remember a thing from those adventures. And people may get themselves into trouble roaming around saying they are some animal, mental institutions would have a great time picking that one apart.
The idea in shapeshifting is a complete letting go of the self and ego. It is not easy to accomplish if one is not adept at meditation. Mediation would be the first step.
I also don't recommend trying to do this by yourself. This kind of deep work frequently has better results if you have a "watcher" or "sitter" someone who could record things you might say or do while under your animal influence and to make sure you do not go wandering the streets. It is debilitating and draining and your watcher should be at the ready with food and drink to bring one fully back into their body when they return. This is important until you are adept. One can be in danger of a psychotic break if not mentally ready for this sort of magic. People have split and not been able to return to their normal self. Another reason to have a sitter, and the sitter should be well versed in this kind of work. Those who have done this many many times will be able to do this without assistance.

There was a thread that came back recently that is in the same vein as this, maybe worth going over.
http://everythingunderthemoon.net/forum ... 34928.html.

BB, Firebird

[The Alchemist]

Thanks for the reply, Firebird.
So...the shapeshifting you are talking about is actually a type of invocation.

The thing you are asking about, shapeshifting, is the right word, however it is not possible to change your physical appearance.

Not sure.

[Firebird]

So...the shapeshifting you are talking about is actually a type of invocation.

You could say that, because you are essentially invoking a being into you. Though it may be done with spoken word or not. In my tradition we call it Aspecting because you take on every aspect of any given thing, usually a God or Goddess but the process is the same for animals and even plants. Shapeshifting is an older term for the same thing. I believe the Aspecting idea came from Robert Cochrane's group.
In any case successful shapeshifting takes some time and patience. When you are in the shifted state, anything is possible along with astral travel, because the body has completely let go of itself. As soon as you have a mundane thought you are likely to come slamming back into your body, I think that's where some one who could talk you through helps, if one has a preconceived notion that there is a anchor in place to bring you back. it may be easier to completely let go. Once you can do this on your own a helper shouldn't be necessary.
What might be interesting is to see if while one is in the shifted form, they could have a biofeedback aura reading, maybe imagery would sense any physical attributes that our normal senses cannot? That may take some talent.
BB, Firebird

[SpiritTalker]

Some years ago I'd read a book about invoking thru mask/dance:

Sacred Mask Sacred Dance (Llewellyn's Craft Series) Paperback – January 8, 1997
by Evan John Jones (Author),‎ Chas S. Clifton (Author)

[Firebird]

Excellent Book