Nature Energies and Divine Energies.

[Raven At Heart]

Creative energy is by nature female energy spirit. Not all divine energy is female. The opposite end of the spectrum also exists. Male divine energy is destructive and negative channel. Female divine energy is positive and creative channel.

[SpiritTalker]

The example you chose is not about source, but about behavior of polarity. The duo charge or current has behaviors that we name male and female. Energy's in motion or it's dead, dormant. Like the infinity side-ways 8, the thing itself flows back and forth. I like female-nurturing and male-dominating for the terms because neither polarity is creative alone. Only in the third state of union is energy creative.

And you've tossed in another concept, that of spirit. So we need another definition while we hash out divine energy.

We witches claim we work with energy, directing it with intent, changing thought into matter by will. Will is a force. Unshaped Substance takes form when it is acted upon by force, and form is in relation to function. Beyond that sequence, my brain crashes. But I know there is more. Memory.

Thought behaves like memory. It does not matter if it goes forward or backward in time because time is illusional. We "remember" a thing into existence. What the physics are, I have no clue. I only observe the behavior. Is any of it divine? Is thought energy? Is thought as energy divine in potential? Magic has a lot to do with un-manifest potential channeled into materialization. (ow,that one hurt) More coffee!

[corvidus]

Creative energy is by nature female energy spirit. Not all divine energy is female. The opposite end of the spectrum also exists. Male divine energy is destructive and negative channel. Female divine energy is positive and creative channel.

I've seen the feminine as both creative and destructive. I've also seen the masculine as creative and destructive.
"Divine" energy, if I understand your meaning of the word, is Androgynous in the beginning. I see "Nature" energy as the same except more involved/fixt, as Hermaphrodite.

1 --> 2 --> 4.

[Katrinkah]

I think all energy is the same, and that its consciousness that is divine. Consciousness is what moves, changes, and wills the energy. Consciousness is the creator of all things.

[SpiritTalker]

Mm, that's a good one.

[Firebird]

Androgynous in the beginning. I see "Nature" energy as the same except more involved/fixt, as Hermaphrodite.

Aren't those synonymous?

Creative energy is by nature female energy spirit. Not all divine energy is female. The opposite end of the spectrum also exists. Male divine energy is destructive and negative channel. Female divine energy is positive and creative channel.

I'm sorry, I don't agree with this at all. Both female and male posses these qualities. We are the life givers and the seed sowers.
Energy is energy, I do not believe, it has gender as corvidus pointed out.
We ourselves are the devine, capable of creating and destroying.
Natural energy I would assign to elements and posses the energy quality associated with that element.
Bb, Firebird

[Raven At Heart]

Whenb I speak of male and female energy, I do not speak of humans or animals. They all by nature have both in them be them male or female. And the 2 energies are not elemental but they are different. female energy feels softer, warmer, kinder. Male energy feels colder, harder, and for lack of a better term angrier, despite it not being emotional. the 2 energies are not connected to spirit or intent. Nor do they have much to do with physical gender. Male energy is the destructive energy of the negative stem. It is cold, hard, and can feel scary. It is a necessary counter-ballance to female energy which feels generally softer, warmer, kinder, and is creative. every human and every animal have some of both in them.

Now as for saying I'm mixing energy and confusing it with spirit, as I said, this energy has no will of its own. As for both being creative, I will say wrong. As for both being necessary in creation I will agree. for creation to exist you have to destroy the older force that holds creation back.

I ws refering to divine energy not divine beings like gods. I was also not referring to living beings or sentient spirits as they are most often comprised of both types of energy to some degree. Male, The primordial void, Female, the power of life.

Though gotta love how everyone assumes I am talking about humans, animals or spirits when I am talking about primordial energies with no will.

[corvidus]

Androgynous in the beginning. I see "Nature" energy as the same except more involved/fixt, as Hermaphrodite.

Aren't those synonymous?

They are!
But that doesn't mean they're the same. Just similar.
And 'Androgynous' and 'Hermaphrodite' are just simple metaphors in place of more complex ideas, which don't need to be 'animal'.

[SpiritTalker]

I was referring to energy, not beings in my first paragraph. Then i wandered off. I still stand by one energy, two behavioral polarities, and the 3rd state of union. As raven describes, the polarities manifest different characteristics but they are one, to me.

Raven am i understanding you, that you perceive two distinctly separate primordial energies? And I've lost track of what you believed was divine energy, or wasn't that stated yet? Bear with me.

[Raven At Heart]

To me divine energy is primordial dimensional energy. you may be right about them being the same energy and opposite polarity, it requires exploration. But I was talking bout the collision of energy that created this universe.

[SpiritTalker]

Uh. So did that energy come from another dimension? It sounds like something the Andromedan ETs would say. Colliding energies. I suppose there is a pattern there. Now I'm thinking of atoms...I'm pretty weak in that area.

[Raven At Heart]

Actually it came from 2 other dimensions colliding. the chain reaction created this universe.

[SpiritTalker]

And that's what you meant by destroying the old that held creation back. The destructive male, the creative female? Am I on your page?

[Raven At Heart]

The male energy destroyed what was in the way of our universe existing. it was a stagnant and non living mass of useless and wasted finite energy. the female energy then had room to create this infinite space. But that doesn't deny the fact that the energy from these 2 dimensions may infact be alternate polarity forms of the same base energy in different dimensions. Like I said, I may need to explore more.

[SpiritTalker]

Ok now the OP was about types of magical energy, and started with comparing divine and nature.
I'd say collisions of dimensions is pretty extreme, but to me falls under nature. It's energy created by objects interacting with each other. Dimensional collision would seem to be extreme interaction. All that plasmatic energy is still unformed.

(Those pesky Andromedans might say a void in space is where thoughts have not formed yet.) Katrinkah had said consciousness is divine, & consciousness moves, changes and wills energy to create, and I don't want to lose that idea. Ethereal Moon says it's all divine.

Magical mindset would be a similar pattern. Corvidus' comment on trickle down comes to mind.
And Firebird said we are divine, capable of creating and destroying.