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Questions: Do I Have the Gift of Dreaming? Am I Cursed?

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 12:13 am

A few days ago I crossed paths with a sweet palm reader, who told me some very accurate things about my life. Before I continue, let me say I put on the meanest poker face possible and didn't react to the things she said to make sure she was the real deal. Two things that she told me, and I kind of had an idea of before, and now trying to get more opinions on, were:
1. Is it possible that I am gifted through my dreams?
2. Did I also inherit a curse and if so, what can I do about it.

She offered a cleansing but it was entirely over priced. ($1500 to be exact) I'll post more info on my situation once. Any help is appreciated, even if it's just a cleansing. Thanks in advance smiley_dance

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Sakura Blossom » Wed May 27, 2015 12:31 am

smokahontas, I don't want to be a naysayer but it's rather unlikely that they were the "real deal". Do you mind sharing what the accurate things were that she shared about you? Unfortunately, someone who truly was "gifted" and would help you with such a thing would never ask you to pay $1500 for a cleansing. She's just trying to rob you of your money.

So I can say with much certainty that I'm pretty positive you are not cursed. As for being gifted through your dreams, that is entirely up to what you believe. Our dreams have often been believed to be a gateway into the spiritual realm and some of us are able to connect with it easier than others. Do you have dreams that you'd consider to be "prophetic" in nature? Or something else that might be "gifted"?
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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 12:50 am

smokahontas, I don't want to be a naysayer but it's rather unlikely that they were the "real deal". Do you mind sharing what the accurate things were that she shared about you? Unfortunately, someone who truly was "gifted" and would help you with such a thing would never ask you to pay $1500 for a cleansing. She's just trying to rob you of your money.

So I can say with much certainty that I'm pretty positive you are not cursed. As for being gifted through your dreams, that is entirely up to what you believe. Our dreams have often been believed to be a gateway into the spiritual realm and some of us are able to connect with it easier than others. Do you have dreams that you'd consider to be "prophetic" in nature? Or something else that might be "gifted"?
The price is what made my whole perspective of this lady change. The reason I believed the curse thing she said I had was because my sister was told by a santera in the past and my mother received a message from her mother through a medium that said the same. They all said the same thing in different words, someone cursed my mother and it was going to be passed down to all women after my mother but that I'm absorbing it the most and I'm like a sponge to it. My grandmother walked around my mom when she was pregnant with me and said a "prayer" accused her of having the devil inside her and blew on her.

She also said I received something (within the last 3 years) from out of the country with something attached to it, something spiritual, and I just so happened to receive jewelry from my grandmother about a year and a half ago. She told me I have a lot of strange dreams I have a hard time explaining, I wake up after 3 a lot, she told me my mother isn't all there, she walks around zombie like and can't forget her past struggles, and it's all consuming her, all true. She said I have problems showing emotion, I hate the person I've become, my past has changed me emotionally and spiritually, all things I've accepted but never spoke out loud.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Sakura Blossom » Wed May 27, 2015 1:33 am

The chances of a curse are slim, and I don't think curses work like that, smokahontas. I know it's very easy to believe things like this when someone tells us but I personally don't think that's what's going on at all. Does your family have a history of mental illness? Sometimes these things are easily explained through logic and scientific means rather than magickal. I think you're okay, and that this woman just did a good job of guessing. If you're concerned about a curse, however, try doing cleansing of yourself and shielding.

This is what I do for shielding techniques:

1) You can do the grounding and shielding technique that I learned early on. Essentially what you do is you put your feet on the ground and close your eyes, imagining that your feet are roots that go deep, deep down into the earth. When you're there, you take in deep breaths and imagine bringing up an element through your roots and into your body with your arms overstretched above your head like leaves and branches. You bring the element in through your body and imagine it inside of you and surrounding you. This helps to create a shield and protect you. The element can be anything. You can try to make it what you want but a lot of times it chooses itself. This is also a great technique for finding out what your element actually is.

2) This is what a mentor taught me. You imagine bringing white, gold and silver light in through your body from your crown chakra (and if you're not familiar with chakras yet, that's the one at the very top of your head!) and you imagine the warmth spreading through you to keep you safe and protected. You imagine it cleansing you of any negative energies and then imagine it spreading around you as well in a protective circle. With this one, I always shut down my chakras by running my hand down my head over my chest and down to my root chakra. While doing this, I imagine them turning like gears and shutting "off" so to speak but aligning as they do so. This practice is also especially helpful after doing magick to ensure that you're protected and safe afterwards. You can say sternly that anything unwanted you might have called through needs to return to where it came and to protect yourself once more.

3) You can bless charms on necklaces and other jewelry pieces to protect yourself with shields. When I do this, I dip them into water I've blessed and run them through smoke of a candle I anointed with oil to help with my purpose. Then I put in water again, then smoke and do this three times before I finish and imagine it surrounded in white light for protection. After I finish with that, I put it on and anytime I tap the charm three times, my shield automatically goes up. For me, it's a bright orange and gold fire because Loki (who I work with) stepped in with his element to protect me.

You can also carry around any kind of black stone as black helps to absorb negative energy.
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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Vesca » Wed May 27, 2015 1:59 am

First and foremost, and I wish you had (and will) post an introductory post about yourself in the appropriate sub-forum in the near future. We do try to maintain some level of courtesy to the best of our ability so we can encourage proper greetings and polite discussions within the forum community.

Second, let me try to hash out exactly what you're trying to convey.

You feel, and have been told by what I expect is a hack psychic, that you have some form of gift regarding your dreams. Can I assume that you are talking about premonitions? Or is it something else?

Regarding this curse, and this same "psychic," can you elaborate on the specifics? That is, what are the implications of this "curse?" How has it harmed you and your family, how is it being mostly absorbed into yourself rather than other family members, why do you believe it was cast, who do you believe cast it, do they practice any form of witchcraft that you are aware of and if so, what form from what region? Is the only reason you believe yourself to be cursed is because a psychic, or a few psychics, told you so?

If you take a moment to read through some of the earlier posts regarding posters who believed they had been cursed, you'll see a pattern regarding the likelihood and general untrusting attitude designated toward these "psychics" (of which there are many) whose business it is to tell unsuspecting individuals that the general feeling of malaise they have been experiencing is a curse of some measure of extremeness which can only be banished by a professional's (i.e. their) skills and not at home. These professionals then proceed to offer this service to you for an immodest fee (in your case, $1500). This is how they make their money, and because it works they continue to do it.

For the record, every true healer I have ever known has never charged such obscene amounts for their services. In fact, all of them would prefer not to charge anything except that living expenses dictate that they must ask for some form of recompense for their time and energy, especially if they aren't able to secure steady employment or otherwise generate financial stability.


Respecting the forum rules, where we do not tolerate the discussion of curses, I will not go into specifics on this point. But the chances of coming across an individual who has the knowledge, the training, and the ability to actually cast a curse is extremely rare. The chances of an individual, or a "psychic" practitioner watching far too many young-adult oriented films and reading too many similarly-age-oriented books is far more likely.

For that reason, the answers you can give regarding my earlier questions will be paramount to even identifying if you have a legit curse following you about, or if it is in fact the generated negativity following an unfortunate proclamation by an unfortunate psychic and a general case of an overdue cleansing and shielding.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Xiao Rong » Wed May 27, 2015 6:24 am

Yes, sorry to also be a naysayer, but the fact that your sister and your mother were also both told by various psychics that you have a curse on you really just makes me think that your family has had a lot of run-ins with frauds and scammers (were they also asked to pay money to cleanse the curse?). Most people who have had experience with divination know that charging a boatload of money to do a spiritual cleansing to exorcise a curse is a sure sign of fraud that is unfortunately all too common, and not to take anything the claimant says seriously. Like Vesca said, these kinds of readers can attribute anything going wrong in your life to "the family curse". Sounds like this psychic is very good at cold reading -- you say something vague enough and universal enough to apply to everyone, and the client fills in the blanks (e.g. "You have some hidden pain in your past that you don't often talk about" -- "Oh my gosh, that must be about that time I was bullied in 3rd grade!"). She could probably guess that you have trouble showing emotion because of that strict "poker face" you put on. And let's be real here -- everyone's dreams are weird and unexplainable. There were probably other vague things she said that didn't resonate with you, so you don't remember them very well -- only the parts where she said something that DID connect to you.

As others have said, true curses are extremely rare -- not to mention, they take quite a lot of time and energy to maintain. Given the shady source who's telling you about all this, I would stay pretty skeptical on this front.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 10:38 am

I took all that stuff like cold reading into consideration. This was something I wanted, and approached in similar ways but nothing drew me to those people. The way I figured was I'll personally feel when the time is right, or when the person was right. I think this lady is legit but also a little greedy, and she let her greed get the best of her. She said she needed it for supplies and temple time. I asked what was the cleansing she'd be doing and she said burn sage 2 days in a row, have me write my well wishes (no names) and what I want to rid my life of (also no names). Sleep on the positive letter and burn the negative letter with a candle she'd give me and she'd meditate on it.

As for coming across several frauds, the 1st lady wasn't going to charge my sister at all, but she told her some stuff that seemed like voodoo to my sister and it scared her a little so she didn't go through with it. The 2nd time was a close family friend who was a medium, I wasn't leaving at my house at the time, being the stupid young girl I was I "ran away" from my problems at home and ended up staying with my bf at the time. The family friend bursted in tears and apologized and said she just feels the need to cry, that there was a woman and man in our home looking over all of us, she described my grandparents to a T. There were no photos of them in our home. She described how they stand and what they wore, My grandmother with a hand made white dress I believe, and my grandfather with a black hat and dress pants. She told my mom I was going to come back to stop crying for me, and that I was going to return very different but with a blessing that was going to change everything. That I was going to be suffering for a while and the guy I was with was going to leave me for another girl. I came back, very different than the happy girl I once was, with my little guy and as a single mother. She also mentioned family crisis' that there was no way she could have knew about. She told my mother that she and I have the most powerful negative cloud following us. I don't know if my grandmother was a witch but I do believe if someone has enough hate in their heart they can conjure up some type of negativity and pass it to who is causing their hate. She always was cold towards my mother sister and I, favored my brother. Her hate towards my mother was because when my dad (a Muslim Pakistani) married my mother (a Guatemalan Catholic), he went against her plan for him, the marriage she arranged for him, and the culture. I don't know if I'm talking unnecessary things but I feel like the more you know the more things make sense.

I don't mean to offend anyone by talking about curses or anything so I apologize if I do/did so. I just always felt something with me, sometimes good and I'd like to think it's my grandparents or maybe my aunt that I lost as a child, but sometimes I feel scared for no reason and like someone is watching me. It's always been like that in my home since I was a child. Anyone I talk to either gets spooked by my house, looks at me like I'm crazy or is just as confused as I am. I'm hoping here, someone with more insight on these type of things can educate me more. It's hard over the internet I'm sure but it's the only place I can find people that don't think I'm paranoid or crazy.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Vesca » Wed May 27, 2015 11:54 am

... but sometimes I feel scared for no reason and like someone is watching me. It's always been like that in my home since I was a child.
Is this the precise reason why you feel cursed? Or is it simply because someone told you so?

When it comes to your psychics, you're the only one who can make up your own mind. My opinion remains unchanged, so on that point we are going to have to agree to disagree.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 12:03 pm

It just adds to it I suppose. If I'm not then I have NOOO problem with that, I'm not wishing to be. I do feel, even if I'm not cursed, that there's some negative energy in my home. It's a spooky feeling.

Either way, cursed or not I'm trying to live my life differently. Maybe I'm not cursed (hopefully not) & I just attract negative out comes out of a habit of expecting the worst and that's the "curse" being seen over me. I'm trying to look at this from all points of view and piece it together to something that makes sense.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Vesca » Wed May 27, 2015 12:18 pm

I haven't read anything that indicates you are, and on top of your description I'm positive you aren't cursed.

Have you stumbled into some psychic dirt that is making you feel scared, depressed, fatigued, or making you have strange dreams and nightmares? Possibly. But that's easily resolved, and it's why we do regular cleansing rituals to remove that dirt every so often. That's actually a normal part of life, and a lot of people are actually able to feel when they're being bogged down by it (because their negativity is not actually caused by anything they're doing or that's within their life, so it comes from elsewhere).

I would really advise you to read through some of our other sections regarding cleansing practices. There are a lot of methods out there, virtually every Wiccan/Witchcraft 101 book has a section on it. They can be as simple or as elaborate as you want them to be, they can be done within your budget and living circumstances, and if you're like me you'll need to experiment a bit to find one that works well for you because you'll be doing it on a regular basis (mine are usually monthly).

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 12:23 pm

I would really advise you to read through some of our other sections regarding cleansing practices. There are a lot of methods out there, virtually every Wiccan/Witchcraft 101 book has a section on it. They can be as simple or as elaborate as you want them to be, they can be done within your budget and living circumstances, and if you're like me you'll need to experiment a bit to find one that works well for you because you'll be doing it on a regular basis (mine are usually monthly).
I'll for sure be doing some research on here. Are there any books that you (or anyone else) could recommend would be good references as well?

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Vesca » Wed May 27, 2015 12:30 pm

Hrmm the first one that comes to mind is actually called Psychic Self Defense by Doreen Fortune. Here's a link to it:
http://www.amazon.com/Psychic-Self-Defe ... lf+defense

It's usually the one I point people towards if they're just starting off.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby SnowCat » Wed May 27, 2015 1:56 pm

I can think of several fortune tellers in my area who would probably be glad to tell me I'm cursed, and then attempt to extort money from me to remove the curse. Having someone burn sage for you isn't necessary. Buy your own sage, light it, and do your own smudging and cleansing. It's much more effective and economical.

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby smokahontas » Wed May 27, 2015 2:23 pm

I can think of several fortune tellers in my area who would probably be glad to tell me I'm cursed, and then attempt to extort money from me to remove the curse. Having someone burn sage for you isn't necessary. Buy your own sage, light it, and do your own smudging and cleansing. It's much more effective and economical.

Snow

That's the exact same thing I was thinking. That's why when she told me that ridiculous number I was questioning, what kind of cleansing she's doing, I want instant results in that case :lol:
she said it was for supplies and "temple time". then I wanted to question what kind of temple wants to milk people of their money like that, because I know sage and candles "from Canada" aren't expensive, but that would come off as rude... I'm now focusing my research on some type of self cleansing ritual or meditation and negativity blocking.

Also Thank You Vesca, that book is on my list and is leading me to other ones that are catching my eye

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Re: hello, new member seeking some guidance

Postby Vesca » Wed May 27, 2015 2:48 pm

I'm glad you're taking things into your own hands. Research is the best thing for anyone on this path, just sometimes finding out where to start is difficult.

For the record, "temple time" should be free or you're going to a weird temple. Sage bundles that are premade cost about $5 here, or you can grow it yourself for free sans the cost of seeds and time. So that's basically a profit of $1495. You can see why those kinds of practitioners irk me. :P


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