Am I Not Meant For This?

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Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby SingingCanyon » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:21 am

I've been studying Wicca for pretty much a year now and am really happy with the belief system and such. But I was raised Christian and every once in a while I get afraid that maybe im doing something that WILL send my soul to Hell or something... I don't really want to believe in Christianity anymore, but 15 years of it have left their mark on me. Is there something i can do to help get my mind in a better place or something? Because I really don't want to stop studying Wicca...
I am the voice of the past that will always be,
Filled with my sorrows and blood in my fields.
I am the voice of the future,
Bring me your peace,
Bring me your peace and my wounds,
They will heal.
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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Tasariel » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:30 am

I've been studying for years, and also converted from Christianity, and sometimes along the line you just have these little doubts. Don't worry.
Just keep remembering that Hell doesn't exist. Hell is something that is meant to scare you into good behavior.

If you're behaving well ANYWAY, why would you be concerned about Hell?
I can't believe that the Christian God would send a good person to hell for having the wrong belief system. I simply can't. If you live a good life, and do good, and follow Wicca to your heart's content, you shouldn't have to worry anyway.

God is supposed to be kind, according to them. So if we all die tomorrow, and find out that we were all wrong, don't you think he would forgive us, as long as we did what our hearts told us was right? I think so.

So don't worry. You aren't going to Hell. It doesn't exist, and even if it did, as long as you live a good life and treat others well, you don't have anything to worry about anyway. <3

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Luna_Lobo » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:59 am

Tas is right. I came from a southern baptist family. They scared me that i was going to hell because when i dream my dreams comes true. They say the devil is in me. When i got older and my dreams keep coming true i found out i wasnt going to hell because of it. I marry my ex husband whos a wizard and he taught me how to become more of a witch. And he also told me i wasnt going to hell. Dont worry about hel like Tas said it dont exsite. Just do whats in your heartTas is right. I came from a southern baptist family. They scared me that i was going to hell because when i dream my dreams comes true. They say the devil is in me. When i got older and my dreams keep coming true i found out i wasnt going to hell because of it. I marry my ex husband whos a wizard and he taught me how to become more of a witch. And he also told me i wasnt going to hell. Dont worry about hel like Tas said it dont exsite. Just do whats in your heart

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby CristryShannon » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:06 am

You know,i had the same fear!The thing is that you can't delete so easy Cristianity so try to go away from Cristianity slowly and that will help.Also you can be a witch and a Cristian at the same time a Cristian witch. According to Cristianity God made as to have free will and choise...so if we choose wicca from Cristianity he wont punish us cause it was our choise. Also according to Cristianity ,again,when the big disaster come the people who are going to go to "hell" would be 4 or 5.Nothing to be afraid of!If you use magic for a good reason and not for hurting people you would be just fine!!:P:))
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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby MusicalEarth » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:27 pm

I was raised Catholic. I learned about Wicca from a friend and I really liked it. Problem is I'm confirmed as a Catholic but believe in Wicca more but those teaching are still in the back of my head. My Mom still makes me go to Church and I'm only 15. I wanna get more into it but I'm afraid to because she thinks it's just a stage. So am I right for this? I'm still new and don't really know what to do. I've been to Salem, MA so it's not like I'm fully clueless on Wicca and witchcraft. I have 2 healing candles I bought from there a year ago and a magical herbalism book and I'm trying to master writing Theban. Help a new one out?

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Starwitch » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:38 pm

The way I convinced myself it was all nonsense was by reading Acharya S.' books. She's a genius. Here's a video based on her book "Suns of God" that proved that Jesus was just another Sun God (personified). (The video was made by a fan of hers.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vm_wh-84D8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGU2jsfFUCM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVJipQLwAeQ

It's going to be necessary to undo all the years of intentional brainwashing that the church has put you through. They've used all the common hypnosis techniques like fear, guilt, repetition... Even certain music beats in most hymns have a hypnotic rhythm to them.

If you've ever watched Binny Hinn's audience, you'll see what mass hypnosis looks like. It's so insane. They call it "being in the Spirit", but it turns out that you can acheive the same effect through many other means, so apparently it has nothing to go with God and everything to do with the way the human brain responds to certain kinds of stimuli.

There's definitely enough information out there to convince anyone that Christianity is just another cult. Whether people choose to read/watch that information is the bigger question. When you've been taught that "the only unpardonable sin is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit", but you don't really know exactly what that means (I'm not sure anyone does), it makes you afraid to do ANYTHING that could be construed as "blaspheming the Holy Spirit", which could include looking at anti-Christian information.

If Chrisitanity really had the truth, they wouldn't need to use so much fear and guilt and all those bloody horror shows (the Easter plays) to force people into feeling horrible enough that they convert. The message itself should be enough, and obviously it's not, which makes sense since the message isn't that profound. It's the same message that all mystics and holy men have repeated forever, long before Jesus, and certainly long after him: "Love one another."

The truth is, Jesus probably never existed in real life. He was a creation of the Church, which wanted to bring all the pagans and Jews together under one religion to stop all the fighting between them. So they invented a Christ who had the characteristics of a pagan Sun deity, as well as the characteristics of the Messiah that the Jews had been waiting for, and named that "god" Jesus. It did help the violence some, even though fighting continued, but eventually enough people accepted Christianity that there was at least less violence and killing in the name of God. Until the extremist Muslims came along anyway. And now we're back at it again. :roll:

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby AutumnMaidens » Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:02 am

What I find helps is studying history. If you fear the rules the christian bible preaches just look at the history of the bible and see the times that it has been changed, see that the hatred of witches in the bible was mostly added at the time of the witch-craze. That and ask the goddess for guidance, she responds much quicker and will no doubt help you on your path.

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby SingingCanyon » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:14 pm

That is insanely helpful information, Starwitch. I feel like a huge weight has been lifted off of me, just by watching those videos. I wish more people would watch that, and spread the news around, that way Christianity really can't frighten anyone else into submission. I can't believe that I bought into such a made up religion like that. It almost made me cry. :lol:
I am the voice of the past that will always be,
Filled with my sorrows and blood in my fields.
I am the voice of the future,
Bring me your peace,
Bring me your peace and my wounds,
They will heal.
-Celtic Woman

Blessed Be,
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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Serenity Willow » Mon Oct 03, 2011 7:54 pm

Thank you, this is exactly what I had been looking for over the weekend. A friend and I were talking about the history of Christianity and I couldn't find these exact videos, I've seen before :)
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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Starwitch » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:40 pm

I'm really glad the videos helped you. :)

I agree with Miss Pixie that some of best material out there for getting over Christianity are people's accounts of near-death experiences. Those are amazing.

One book you can read that will also easily convince you is Journey of Souls (and the 2nd book Destiny of Souls) by Michael Newton, Ph.D. Those are my favorite books. Our member Greek Male Witch actually posted about them in another thread here the other day, and he also found free downloads of those books in PDF format which he's offering on his blog. (Of course, it's best if you can buy them, but you know how that is.)

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Starwitch » Mon Oct 03, 2011 11:44 pm

Another YouTube channel that offers many accounts of near-death experiences is this one:

Bills Videos

And don't forget to watch that show "I Survived: Beyond and Back" (just the "Beyond and Back" ones are NDEs. The regular episodes aren't.) I love that show.

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Miss Pixie » Tue Oct 04, 2011 3:36 pm

Another YouTube channel that offers many accounts of near-death experiences is this one:

Bills Videos

And don't forget to watch that show "I Survived: Beyond and Back" (just the "Beyond and Back" ones are NDEs. The regular episodes aren't.) I love that show.
Ooh, I hadn't seen those ones! Thanks! C:

The truly ironic thing is that Christianity often requires a blind faith in things, and yet when a more conservative/fundamentalist Christian sees those videos on YouTube, it prompts him or her to say things like, "This can't be true - Jesus wasn't mentioned." Even though there is glaringly vivid evidence for all of this (like blind people seeing and deaf people hearing after death), they would rather cling to facets of their religion that have no outward evidence. I truly don't understand it. The spirituality of Christianity is great - love your neighbour, forgive your enemies, help those who hurt you - but the religious side of it can be an ugly thing sometimes.

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby raynelae » Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:52 pm

Here is the way I see Christianity. Look at all of the great teachers that came before Jesus (if he even existed) There was Buddha and Buddhism and many other ancient religions and very important teachers.
If hell existed (which I personally don't believe it does) would the loving god and his son Jesus send the people that lived way before Jesus was even born to hell? I was raised a southern baptist and they scared me to death not to mention the views on how anyone that wasn't "saved" was going to hell. Talk about a way scare a child!
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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Starwitch » Wed Oct 26, 2011 12:25 am

They're brainwashed. Once you understand that part of it, their behavior and irrational belief system is pretty simple to understand.

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Re: Am I Not Meant For This?

Postby Gwenni_Fae » Wed Oct 26, 2011 6:40 am

One of the big reasons being a Christian has never clicked for me is this issue. Seems they are always taught that if they do anything the church or Bible deems "a sin" then they might possibly maybe may go to hell. Which of course means you can not believe in another religion, be gay, in some instances get a divorce or use contraceptive, etc.
Such restrictions are unhealthy & unfair. I hope you continue in the path you feel is best for you.
Keep faith & brightest blessings. :)


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