Binding Spells

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Binding Spells

Postby desprate123 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 10:51 am

My aunt and I are very very close. She smokes alot. It have given her breathing problems before and a few months ago she go bronchitis. Her being a smoker messed with her alot. She smoked very very little up untill now. now its 2 or 3 times an hour and it really worries me. Does anyone know of a binding spell THAT WORKS. I did one from "The Complete Idiots Guide To Wicca and Witchcraft" and it didnt work. I did it last week. am I being impatient? will it just not work? Do you need the spell to be able to tell? I need a binding spell quick before she really hurts herself.

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Postby sheherazade » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:01 am

ooh...i don't think you can do something for someone that they don't want to do for themselves..........
did i make sense?

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Postby desprate123 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:04 am

I know about karma but I really dont care. I love her and want her to be okay.

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Postby sheherazade » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:30 am

no....it has nothing to do with karma...besides your intentions are wonderful..
i just don't think you CAN.

desprate123

Postby desprate123 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:37 am

why? :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

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Postby desprate123 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:38 am

She wants to quit smoking... does that count. (those little things are addictive she says)

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Postby hedge* » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:48 am

Actually you can, but a lot of people think it's unethical to mess with another persons freewill. It's down to the individual to decide where they place their ethics on their spiritual path.

I don't know of any spells you could use but have you checked out s web site, I hear there's loads of good spells there.

My only advice to you is to be a bit more patient and to calm down. , I can totally understand your desire to help your aunt but dong a spell in the anxious state you're in could cause it not to work. Spell work involves being in total control of your emotions, meditate beforehand to reach your level of control.


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Postby being-singular-plural » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:51 am

The best thing to do is support her the way you always have--with love. I am a smoker too, and I am not quite ready to quit. But, soon! I know that when I do, I will do it on a Saturday as it is a great day for discipline and removal. Also, (some of you know that I am a stone junkie) I will use a stone called Staurolite (aka "the fairy stone") as it really helps with cravings. I take this stone on long flights and the cravings are minimal. I dunno how it works, it just does. But, as Sheherazade has been telling you regarding your aunt, only I know when I am ready to quit. No one else can make me do it, regardless of spells and things like that. So just be patient and suportive. It is a nasty addiction and a non-addict could not understand its power. Pressuring someone usually does not help. Good luck to both of you. If you and your aunt are going to spells for this, I think a banishment spell is more appropriate, but a properly configured binding spell may work too. Or better yet, start with banishment (banish the addiction) and then do a second spell a little later to bind her to health!

Blessings,

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Postby sheherazade » Fri Jun 03, 2005 12:53 pm

i am a former smoker.who just quit a prolonged use of the gum...so i KNOW how hard it is.
this is why i don't know...or at least i don't THINK a spell that you do for your aunt is going to turn out out suddenly successful.
i went thru hypnotism to lose weight.
it worked.
i really wanted to lose the weight.
so i went back to quit smoking.
after every session i bought a pack of cigs.
said..ok i'll quit tomorrow.
no matter how much i thought i wanted to quit i wasn't willing to go thru the motions that were nessecary & HARD...for quitting.
i recently did a weight loss spell for myself....
but i kept picking at goodies & cheating when i could.
need i say the spell hasn't worked?
& it won't untill i start working with it.
hope i made sense.
it just seems to me it would take alot of experience to do such a spell & especially to expect instant results.
do i make any sense?
btw...the best time to do a banishing spell is when the moon is new(dark).
or if not...when it is waning(did i get that right? looksmiley

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Postby Orion » Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:28 pm

I had to clean an air purifier my Aunt and Uncle have, and they smoke in their house everyday. That combination of the sickening smell and nasty tar from that... enough to never make me every want to touch a cigerette. Got a few friends who are going to school to be mortitions, after watching what comes out of a smoker's lungs it was enough turn them away too. So if you come into contact with nasty yellow tar over stuff of that... god that smell... then that tends to help.

Quitting an addictive habit and witchcraft have a lot in common, willpower. If your aunt really wants to quit, then help her focus. Buy a pack of sticky notes and put 'I will quit smoking' or "I am tired of smoking" on them... then slap them on every door of her home. When you're around, make her read them. If you get enough annoying reminders to make it stay on her mind, it'll become a focus. Just keep at it until you find something that works. It doesn't hurt to meditate on the subject and see if anymore ideas come to you.

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Postby CrystalDragon55 » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:02 pm

The spell you’re attempting to do, even with the best of intentions, is a "Black" spell. You are attempting to alter her free will, even if her stated desire is to quit, if there is no outward show that the spell is working then it is against her will and by casting it with the "harm none" back up you are negating your own spell before it goes out. To make it effective you will have to call on the darker entities to back it up and aid to its strength to over ride her free will. If you have never worked with them I would say this is not the time to start nor the working to start with. Also they demand a high price for their help, the cost to you might not be worth the benefit to her. Remember when you are working magick and over riding the free will of another spirit you are messing with your souls after life location, is 1000 years on the lower planes for your soul worth her getting 10 or 20 more years on the prime material plane? Your conscious mind might say yes, but your soul will probably say NO.

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Postby Orion » Fri Jun 03, 2005 11:49 pm

It really depends on your beliefs about karma on that note. Besides, he already noted that he would be willing to go through with it, as per his views.

In truth if you directed it more as a cleansing spell to remove the addicting then a forceful 'Put that smoke down!" you aren't competing with free will. There are many ways to solve a problem.

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Postby Moon_Stone » Sat Jun 04, 2005 1:51 am

Ok, getting really simple here, but I'm also one of those "not yet but soon" smokers......... the one phrase I heard that really made me think and can fire up anyone's desire to quit (or rather overcome the addiction, which is the hardest thing...) is this:

"Do you wake in the night to smoke? Every hour, a few times an hour, or maybe even every few hours? ....No? Then you are not truly addicted."

Hope that helps someone out there. But speaking from experience, I heard that at least a year ago, and I think of it every time I reach for a cigarette. If she truly has the desire, this thought in combination with your spell you've already done might work. But everyone's right- you can't usually be successful in any attempt to alter free will. And even her request to you to complete the spell can't work on it's own... she has to want it to.

Best of luck... keep us posted.

~BB~

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Postby Aubrey Rose5 » Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:37 pm

to get her to stop smoking or smoke less right befor she lights a ciggarette tell her some of the things in it theres urina or something like that which comes from urin when ever i say that to my mom she puts the cigarrette down granted she hasnt quit yet but she has gone from like 2 packs a day to a half a pack a day so its working.

i know its not a spell but it could help
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