Should I...?

[WitchyLady506]

I second Moolight's suggestion. It's a website that's been around quite some time. I've actually known people who are apart of the vampire community. They are actually something similar to/and considered part of the otherkin community. And you can't turn/sire another vampire. It's like making someone fairy(use that term in whatever way you wish).

Even if one friend was a vampire and the other one "became" one, it would be closer to the one helping the other realize what they are. Though from what I've read of your other posts Purple_wind, you need to be asking a lot of questions and demanding answers. You seem to be taking things at face value a little much. Some things and people in this life make use of there existence by manipulating people just for the amusement of it.

[Earth Ritual]

We have a researcher among us it seems!

I've got no problem with goths wanting to call each other vampires as some sort of role playing thing, but when they try to tell methat it is all real and they are real life vampires like we hear in stories and see in films i find it so hard not to just scream BS at them!

I actually have a ton of original literature. I have an MA in English Lit, so collecting original works like the ones I mentioned above is sort of an obsession.

Stephanie,
I was wondering how your mineral manifests. People born in the year 1984 according to the Dagara is West Africa are mineral people gifted with the talent of the very skilful usage of language, research, and memory. And many times they very ancient memories like the memories in our bones. Mineral people are the ones that tend to pull out the etymology of a word to prove a point.

I know this is off topic but hey we can only say so much about how being a "real vampire" is bullshit.

[Melindrose]

I am not sure how many people actually believe in the truths about Bram Stokers, Dracula, but I would like to clarify that it was considered a work of fiction in 1897 as it is now. Bram Stoker was actually not the first writer to inspire the now modern aspects of, The Vampire.

John William Polidori created the debonair Vampire countenance, which inspired Dracula and every other Vampire fiction series. Below are some outtakes from his original story, first published in 1819.

"In spite of the deadly hue of his face, which never gained a warmer tint, either from the blush of modesty, or from the strong emotion of passion."

"Her earnestness and apparent belief of what she narrated, excited the interest even of Aubrey; and often as she told him the tale of the living vampyre, who had passed years amidst his friends, and dearest ties, forced every year, by feeding upon the life of a lovely female to prolong his existence for the ensuing months, his blood would run cold, whilst he attempted to laugh her out of such idle and horrible fantasies; but Ianthe cited to him the names of old men, who had at last detected one living among themselves, after several of their near relatives and children had been found marked with the stamp of the fiend's appetite."

"He found himself in contact with some one, whom he immediately seized; when a voice cried, "Again baffled!" to which a loud laugh succeeded; and he felt himself grappled by one whose strength seemed superhuman: determined to sell his life as dearly as he could, he struggled; but it was in vain: he was lifted from his feet and hurled with enormous force against the ground:—his enemy threw himself upon him, and kneeling upon his breast, had placed his hands upon his throat—when the glare of many torches penetrating through the hole that gave light in the day, disturbed him;—he instantly rose, and, leaving his prey, rushed through the door, and in a moment the crashing of the brandies, as he broke through the wood, was no longer heard."

"Upon her neck and breast was blood, and upon her throat were the marks of teeth having opened the vein:—to this the men pointed, crying, simultaneously struck with horror, A Vampyre! a Vampyre!"

Below is the poem published with, The Vampyre in 1819. This poem was one of the first fictional works on, Vampires. Originally published in 1813.

"But first on earth, as Vampyre sent,
Thy corse shall from its tomb be rent;
Then ghastly haunt the native place,
And suck the blood of all thy race;
There from thy daughter, sister, wife,
At midnight drain the stream of life;
Yet loathe the banquet which perforce
Must feed thy livid living corse,
Thy victims, ere they yet expire,
Shall know the demon for their sire;
As cursing thee, thou cursing them,
Thy flowers are withered on the stem.
But one that for thy crime must fall,
The youngest, best beloved of all,
Shall bless thee with a father's name—
That word shall wrap thy heart in flame!
Yet thou must end thy task and mark
Her cheek's last tinge—her eye's last spark,
And the last glassy glance must view
Which freezes o'er its lifeless blue;
Then with unhallowed hand shall tear
The tresses of her yellow hair,
Of which, in life a lock when shorn
Affection's fondest pledge was worn—
But now is borne away by thee
Memorial of thine agony!
Yet with thine own best blood shall drip;
Thy gnashing tooth, and haggard lip;
Then stalking to thy sullen grave,
Go—and with Gouls and Afrits rave,
Till these in horror shrink away
From spectre more accursed than they." -The Giaour, Lord Byron

I'm not saying that the book Dracula isn't a work of fiction but that when it was written Bram used what was known lore at the time for vampires.

[shadowx]

The problem is back in the day people believed what they were told, they didnt have modern science to disagree and were too scared by what they heard to think it was fake.

I wouldnt put my faith in a book that was based on the fact of the day. The facts of the day were so wrong with what we know now that anything from back then really needs to be looked at carefully before being accepted.

[JBRaven]

Back then they burned witchs because they were in withthe devil......

[Airlight]

Yep and back then they had a handbook on how to find a witch and how to get rid of the witch...it was...fun. I mean they did burn Joan of Arc alive.

[Melindrose]

And Dan Brown had the name of that book right in the Da Vinci code it is known as The Malleus Malificarum or The Witches Hamer.

[Xal]

You guys are all wrong about how it was back then.

[WitchyLady506]

Is that Sarah Palin on a t-rex. I hate to break it the artist, but she would have shot it.

[JBRaven]

i laughed so hard water (that i was drinking) came out of my nose

[Purple_wind]

Sorry I took so long to answer and sorry the answer is so long. I only stayed of the computer for a few days. My step dad was being a jerk about everything and he was complaining about anything I did but chores. I'm at my dad's now so I may -MAY- be able to answer quicker now. This is my whole answer to all of you. Some of it's nice and somes mean. If you were a jerk (and you know who you are) then the mean part is meant for you, if you were nice and this is too mean I'm sorry.

The ones being polite thank you very much, I enjoy a simple respectfull argument, just not a "you're so friggin stupid lets say your insane because we're ignorant on the real subject". I understand if people don't agree but seriously..

Thanks moonlight maverick, airlight, （´-`&#6528 and Melindrose. =)

MY FRIEND IS NOT GOTHIC. He wears normal clothes. He doesn't wear make-up or powder to look pale. He is naturally pale.

Why would I be in a cult? I don't even worship the goddess, I worship Bast. I would barley even be in a coven and that's just because Danielle was going to start one with me before she was changed.

I know it sounds crazy but Bast and Jake tell me it's true. They're never wrong. I'm not being fed lies. I know bullshit and this isn't bullshit. If I can't catch it Jake and Bast can. They tell me everything important and even sometimes unimportant things. Like "hey if you don't leave now you'll miss the bus" and I run out the door without looking at the clock..and guess what? I have to run to meet the bus. (My hill is really big so I couldn't have heard the bus). They know when things are happening and they know lies. Jake tells me when people are lying all the time.

I havn't taken his blood out to find out how his genetics are transformed, I'm not a friggin scientist but I do know it makes them depend on energy. As I said before the largest life force is blood so it's the easiest for most vampires to pull energy from blood rather than other things. Some vampires find it easier to pull energy from other things.

Well there are movies about witchcraft where special effects are used to make it look real but it isn't. You know witchcraft is real but you think vampireism is impossible just because some people fake it? That's pretty messed up.

Real vampires go through a transformation of some kind at night as far as I know. I seen him while astral traveling and my soul sensed the danger so quickly my soul was snapped back in place and I woke up. It made me tired... Point is that I got a glance. He had wings and his nose was turned up, like a gargoyl, his skin was pale grey. That's all I could remember. He looked like a human mixed with a vampire..which is what he is pretty much. A Vampyric Gargoyl.

I know they exist. I know they are real. They don't need BLOOD. I've already said this! They need energy, it's like food to them. I wouldn't just believe anything without proof or I would have already stopped believing him long ago. I respect everyone else and their beliefs no matter how screwed up they are, the least you could do is return the favor!

For those wondering how people are turned it is by drinking a Vampires blood, probably fresh. If they did it by biting everyone would be vampires because they would need to feed on someone. Their Saliva has healing powers..hence the lack of marks and only sore spots. Some have woke up and the vampires have left and they found marks..but the mark fade quickly.

If they are in the sun they don't burn instantly or they couldn't even come out on cloudy days. It hurts their skin. I don't know much about the skin sensitivity to the sun.

He (sorry I wont use his name...I've already told alot so I shouldn't tell his name) doesn't like most vampire things...he wouldn't do it to be "kool". Also, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE YOU BEEN RIDICULED FOR MAGICK? How many times have scientists tried to prove us wrong? How many times have you been called a crazy liar? YOU should ALL know how much this sucks. It's very imature to call me stupid and say I'm being fed BS when you're NOT HERE, NOT ME, and HAVN'T seen what I've seen. Don't call me crazy when you can't completely know what I know.

[JBRaven]

How are you going to worship Bast ( a SUN goddess) if the sun hurts you?

[WitchyLady506]

If they are in the sun they don't burn instantly or they couldn't even come out on cloudy days. It hurts their skin. I don't know much about the skin sensitivity to the sun.

I have this problem. I can't go out in the sun with anything below SPF40. My skin doesn't tan, it goes straight to burning and blistering. I have scars from this. This isn't a vampiric trait, it's a melatonin issue.

The vampires I've hung around with say that the sun makes them uncomfortable. One even joked, the sun was trying to steal his soul, refering to the fact that most vampires feel like their energy gets zapped from them when they are in the sunlight. It makes them worn out quickly and tends to give them bad headaches, make them cranky. The night makes them feel more at ease, more lively.

I know it sounds crazy but Bast and Jake tell me it's true. They're never wrong. I'm not being fed lies. I know bullshit and this isn't bullshit. If I can't catch it Jake and Bast can. They tell me everything important and even sometimes unimportant things. Like "hey if you don't leave now you'll miss the bus" and I run out the door without looking at the clock..and guess what? I have to run to meet the bus. (My hill is really big so I couldn't have heard the bus). They know when things are happening and they know lies. Jake tells me when people are lying all the time.

I wake up before my alarm clock goes off every day, and it's set for different times everyday because of my work schedule, which varies week to week. This is not the help of anyone, this is just my internal clock. Even though you make not realize it, you now more about what goes on around you as far as bus schedules and things go and your body will react and tell you when you need to leave to catch a bus or to go back and check the stove. It's being intune to your natural instincts.

Now this is where I'm probably going to make you very angry. I've known of spirits and other beings who like to play tricks. There are beings of all types who do this. They will tell you the truth about everything going on around you, but when it comes to something they want from you, they will lie like you wouldn't believe. It's them just being manipulative.

You maybe asking but why would all of these go to a lengths to deceive me? There are beings who do have the power to control lower entities and even create them. Which brings me to:

Real vampires go through a transformation of some kind at night as far as I know. I seen him while astral traveling and my soul sensed the danger so quickly my soul was snapped back in place and I woke up. It made me tired... Point is that I got a glance. He had wings and his nose was turned up, like a gargoyl, his skin was pale grey. That's all I could remember. He looked like a human mixed with a vampire..which is what he is pretty much. A Vampyric Gargoyl.

I'm going to be very honest; reading this and the vibe I got, I'm scared and worried for you. I've had dealings with vampires and vampire friends of mine on the astral plane and have never seen anything like this. I want you to ask yourself: why would I sense danger and run when seeing a friend? Cause a friend is someone who would never want to harm you, so why would this happen. If your astral self is sensing danger there's a reason. This is not a vampire, and you need to tread very carefully. I'm not sure of what it is, but please be careful, I can't stress that enough. I also ask for you to think back to when your dealing with Bast and Jake and your vampire friend all started to happen?

Something is not right here, and while you stated we aren't you and haven't been where you are or know these people, you haven't been where I have or known what I have, but I will tell you that I know a lot about what's out there, what things "bump in the night" so to say and I'm telling you, you need to guard yourself and be trying to figure out what this individual is actually after from you, cause if my suspicions are right, it's not wanting to make your life perfect and full of happiness like you're wanting.

[Airlight]

How are you going to worship Bast ( a SUN goddess) if the sun hurts you?

Actually (don't think I am proving you wrong) she was original a sun goddess then the Greeks got a hold of her and made her a moon goddess. She is also the patron of cats, women, and secrets.

[WitchyLady506]

How are you going to worship Bast ( a SUN goddess) if the sun hurts you?

Actually (don't think I am proving you wrong) she was original a sun goddess then the Greeks got a hold of her and made her a moon goddess. She is also the patron of cats, women, and secrets.

Bast is whatever she wants to be, because she's a goddess. Plus she's also female, and being female, we can change our minds, like being a moon or sun goddess, in less the a nano second.