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Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:04 pm
by Marigold
Not to repeat myself, but several weeks I was ignoring her, moving forward and working on my own situation without her in it. I entirely agreed that by focusing on her, I was feeding into it so I determined to move on. I did a number of things to raise vibrational frequencies, get past her and not even give her a fleeting thought.

As I said, I was moving forward but in so doing, she noticed. Now, you can believe that or not. All is a matter of faith and what we believe. Years ago I would have thought this was abject silliness. Just the stupid rantings of some backwards hick. It is just that once things start happening over and over, the dots start to connect. Like repeating a scientific experiment and replicating findings.

There isn't anything I can do about my friend being gone, obviously. It is what it is. I am just going to continue to distance myself as best I can.

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2014 2:24 pm
by random417
(Sorry if my post is a bit chaotic; I did my best to make it understandable but since english is not my mother language I usually make things confusing as hell in longer posts. Sorry about that!)
Not to derail the post, but I'd have never guessed, you write like a native speaker!

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:38 am
by Seraphin
Alright, if you believe that the offender has the power, knowledge and experience to cause such "harm" via Maleficium, then ''ignoring her" isn't going to be effective against a magick like that. Magick such as this can't be simply "removed" but if it's sort of hypnotic suggestion then yes, turning your focus away from even the thought of what she "is doing" to you is the single most powerful act that you can do. However, if it's just a hypnotic suggestion then why is it your shields aren't working?

Curse will still take effect even until one is willing to take the first step towards uncrossing it, binding the offender (though, I believe the effectiveness of these rituals would depend upon the conviction of the practitioner), or make appeasement and so the rift deepens. One will still continue to harm and ruin one's life and one will still blame the other for the problems in her life.

We should realize that there's a choice to be made: accept our own weaknesses; look for your possible role in this discord (what have you done, that she gets so mad at you?) -- or allow negative thoughts and emotions to contribute to the effectivity and life expectancy of the curse. Approaching the offender and forging her unconditionally for the pain she has caused you. There's still a long and painful road ahead before complete breaking of curses, but the willingness to forgive is the crucial first step. As long as both are in their current mode, this will continue. Once they change this, there's a hope of moving forward.

This is, in essence, what breaking or uncrossing of curse is about I believe.

Sorry if I sound insisting but but your situation really hit my nerves that I want you to get out of that awful condition. Anyway, I'm going to include you in my meditation tonight and will pray for you.

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:16 am
by Shub Niggurath
All is a matter of faith and what we believe. Years ago I would have thought this was abject silliness. Just the stupid rantings of some backwards hick. It is just that once things start happening over and over, the dots start to connect. Like repeating a scientific experiment and replicating findings.
Exactly! All is a matter of faith and what we believe!
Same thing applies to scientific experiments. Doing an experiment requires a hypothesis first. The hypothesis can be either confirmed or refuted. BUT the funny phenomenon that often appears during experiments is that once you, let's say, confirm a hypothesis it is more likely to be confirmed each time you repeat the experiment. It's called an "Observer effect" which existence was confirmed in quantum physics experiments. The effect basically means that the observer/experimenter can influence the outcome of the experiment simply by thinking about it. That's why there's plenty of scientific facts contradicting eachother. You can always find ways to both confirm and refute any hypothesis, depending on what you want to do.
So I think it's better to use it in a positive, beneficial way.
Not to repeat myself, but several weeks I was ignoring her, moving forward and working on my own situation without her in it. I entirely agreed that by focusing on her, I was feeding into it so I determined to move on. I did a number of things to raise vibrational frequencies, get past her and not even give her a fleeting thought.
See, that's the thing. Ignoring doesn't equal forgetting/not believing/forgiving.
Ignoring is an active approach which means that you actually spend energy to actively suppress something.
It's like asking someone not to think about a white bear. The person will most likely think about the white bear. And if not - he/she will only manage to prevent the thought (about a white bear) from surfacing into the conscious mind. It takes effort. And when you need to constantly put effort into suppressing something then you don't have that much energy left for other things = your effectivity drops. Same thing with traumas - people put so much effort into suppressing the memory of the trauma that they suffer from side effects - anxiety, dreaming about it, nervous tics etc. It takes so much effort to keep the unwanted memory at bay that such people don't have as much psychic energy as a regular non-traumatized person does.
We should realize that there's a choice to be made: accept our own weaknesses; look for your possible role in this discord (what have you done, that she gets so mad at you?) -- or allow negative thoughts and emotions to contribute to the effectivity and life expectancy of the curse. Approaching the offender and forging her unconditionally for the pain she has caused you. There's still a long and painful road ahead before complete breaking of curses, but the willingness to forgive is the crucial first step. As long as both are in their current mode, this will continue. Once they change this, there's a hope of moving forward.
Precisely Seraphin.

Letting go, really letting go is the only way out of this situation. It might be a painful and demanding process but it's totally worth the effort. No one deserves to suffer! Allow yourself to find your inner peace, it's your birthright.
I wish you all the best, Marigold!

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 6:26 am
by Seraphin
What the image Levitating Cat posted said.

*giggles, runs off*

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 4:35 pm
by Nightwatcher
Letting go, really letting go is the only way out of this situation. It might be a painful and demanding process but it's totally worth the effort. No one deserves to suffer! Allow yourself to find your inner peace, it's your birthright.
And see, this is where I'm pretty sure Lady Hecate prodded me over here; I tend to have problems letting go and forgiving myself. ^^; It's so hard to do, especially because I'm somewhat vindictive. *sigh*

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:52 pm
by MsMollimizz
If all else fails...
Create a mirror spell to get it all
reflected back to sender !
:flyingwitch:
Gentle Light
MsMollimizz

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2014 9:55 pm
by Nightwatcher
If all else fails...
Create a mirror spell to get it all
reflected back to sender !
:flyingwitch:
Gentle Light
MsMollimizz
Ah, didn't think of that.

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 6:40 pm
by Marigold
I am resurrecting this thread because it connects with my other thread I just started in the general paranormal section.

At the time I posted in 2014, my son had been battling a life threatening illness. When I posted, he had just finished his treatments and was getting better. Good news is that almost two years later, he continues to do well.

Then in August of that year (two months after my son's issue was resolved), my soulmate/twinflame, someone whom I loved dearly, passed away. He had been ill all year but I was so busy with my son, I was unable to focus upon anything else. That just devastated me and left a void that is still there. I can't begin to share how empty it seems without him. He was my light and my energy for many years and now he is gone.

Then it became directed toward me in 2015 and now I am faced with a potentially very serious health issue.

I agree it is likely reversal spells and/or my own fears and negativity but it is tough to restructure thinking when one feels attacked and fearful. If one is in the middle of a battle, one feels as if your back is against a mountain, at least I can't help but feel angry and fearful.

I guess I need to have something good to happen in order that I feel strong again, but every time I feel like something has gotten resolved, within two months, something else will attack.

Sorry, just feeling emotional right now.

Sorry to

Re: How to get around wards and shielding.

Posted: Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:16 pm
by Becks
Well I just read through this and....well that's intense! I am so awfully sorry you go through this.

What I don't understand is why this person is such a big part of your life and community.

Who can possibly stay clean in an energetic cesspool? I can't even.

Talk about the impossible task.

The truth is that you have the right to divine protection and freedom from energetic influence. Protection and grounding spells should work, and they do. But how can they possibly work when you keep getting exposed? Impossible. Sever ties and distance yourself.