Suicide and Terminal Illness

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Suicide and Terminal Illness

Postby SleepyFae2090 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 am

If someone is terminally ill and know they are going to die is it okay to commit suicide.
I watched my father suffer for years. my grandfather slowly died of colon cancer.
If someone ever gives me a time limit I dont think i would be jumping out of airplanes and have tons and tons of sex. I think i would end my own life the way i wanted it to end.
What do you all think?

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Postby Alchemist of Blue Roses » Thu Jul 09, 2009 7:57 am

If you truly suffer and wish to end the pain, you can commit suicide, its never reccommended...
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Postby Moon_Stone » Thu Jul 09, 2009 2:16 pm

I think whether to live or end life (or even how we live it in the first place,) should be entirely each individual's choice- it's truly all we have the ability to control. Though, "for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction".

I am so sorry to hear that your family suffered the way they have- I can only imagine the toll that's had on all of you.

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Postby TaciRain » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:40 pm

personally i say no even if you find out you've got 6 months left you shouldnt commit suicide. I have a very close friend who was diagnosed with mitochondrial disease in the tenth grade. she's been told 3 seperate times she's got 6 months if that left. She lost a lot of weight (dropped down to the high 80lbs), lost her sight, her ability to walk, couldnt eat (had a food port), and went completely deaf (though she's always had hearing problems). she had to go on lifesupport when she slept because her body would forget to breathe, but when she woke up she'd be fine. then she went in a coma and they planned on pulling the plug because she was so bad. but then she woke up and has been going uphill ever sense. they told her she'd never live past 17. she's now 19 (soon to be 20) and doing really well. she's walking again, seeing again, eating on her own, now weighs around 100lbs, and her hearing is even coming back.

so you never know whats around the corner...

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Postby SleepyFae2090 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:04 pm

i guess all of that makes sense. I mean are you going to trust someone to tell you what your body is doing... The body is an awesome thing. But to each his own

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Postby hummingbird3 » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:23 pm

if someone wants to do it, then thats their choice. it would hurt alot of people, but so would their natural death. if someone puts in their will that they want the plug pulled if they're ever in a vegetative state, isnt that basicly suicide? i see it as the same thing, except the act itself is actually done by someone else.
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Postby SleepyFae2090 » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:49 pm

if someone wants to do it, then thats their choice. it would hurt alot of people, but so would their natural death. if someone puts in their will that they want the plug pulled if they're ever in a vegetative state, isnt that basicly suicide? i see it as the same thing, except the act itself is actually done by someone else.
I guess the difference for me is i would want to make the choice then and there not just let my mind die and then let my body follow. I would rather my family remember me atleast mostly whole. But then again I have never been given a time limit. My grandfather and father both fought but both of them also were terrafied when the time came. I wounder if death by choice is different than having it just hit you. I am usually not morbid yall. I just have some questions that i wall always have I guess.

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Postby Chaos Shaman » Fri Jul 17, 2009 9:13 am

If your going to spend 6 months in abed suffering just to die then yeah...but if you are bale to jump from an airplane...then damn it have some fun.

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Postby kgwitch » Tue Jul 21, 2009 2:28 pm

I don't think we can judge it properly (although I am very aware people try to) unless we have experienced something like it. I myself think it should be our choice as individuals and that anyone who says that person is going against God needs to mind their own business and just be thankful they're not in the same position.
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Postby Starwitch Stone » Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:50 pm

The books I've read have said that when a person who is terminally ill and in a great amount of pain commits suicide, the spirits kind of give them a break. It's not considered as much of an offensive as if a healthy young person killed him or herself.

I've often thought that if I knew I was going to die a slow, agonizing death that I would probably kill myself, or at the very least I would smoke crack and meth until it killed me and at least I'd feel good when I died.

It's horrible to see someone die slowly and just waste away. My ex-father-in-law took several years to die. My ex-husband and I lived with him and cared for him. I would never want to be in his position. It is such a degrading way to live. I won't get into the medical details, but you can imagine that it's much like caring for a baby.

I'm sorry for your loss. I do hope you never face the same fate. I'm hoping to just die of a quick and easy heart attack or murder.

I should mention though that most of the spiritual books that touch on the topic of sickness and suicide say that your illness serves a purpose, not only for your own spiritual growth (practicing humility, learning to allow others to help you, using the power of your mind and spirit to overcome physical pain) but it also furthers the growth of those whose lives you touch. Many people sacrifice everything to take care of someone they love who is dying. That's a soul-growing experience. So it's something to consider if you are ever sick with a life-threatening illness. By cutting out early you could be potentially messing up a plan that was set in motion by YOU before you incarnated into this current life. You may have something to learn from your illness that you can't learn any other way.

They say that there is a long waiting list for souls who want to be incarnated into the bodies of disabled humans. Apparently, the potential for spiritual growth there is so great that they are willing to endure the pain of the disability in order to add that experience to their soul.

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Postby One Walker » Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:46 pm

I have to agree with for the most part. From what I've read-and it makes sense to me-it seems many people choose to enter an incarnation in a disabled body as a means to meet some past-life debt they need to work out. Suicide can be real trouble though because it prematurely ends the life cycle before the mission is accomplished or the debt met in full so they'll have to face it again in some future incarnation.

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