Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

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Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Keiji » Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:42 pm

Hi my best friend Lola (name changed) is again in with a person who has often harmed her. (Ivan) So he threatened her then after her first breakup with the release of nude pictures. And threatened her and her then new friend. Later she forgave him for some reason and they came together again. And he treated her like a crap. Then they parted again. And the war started again. Yesterday she told me they were together again. She simply has the quality of forgiving people too easily. I just want to protect her from him. One of her circle of friends has even turned away from her because of it. Please help me.
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Re: Break up Spell (with good intentions)

Postby SpiritTalker » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:23 am

Wake up. Lola has deeper problems if she accepts an abusive & usury relationship under any conditions. The nude photos were meant to be used as blackmail to get sex. That sick jerk preditor should be in jail & lola's possibly just one of many. Wake Lola up. She's been set up & is being exploited. She has to see it to change it. She has to get smarter. Making excuses for her won't help her. You're a caring person & understandably want things different but Lola's the one with the power to change.

See the post "simple spells" for instructions and the 9 knot spell for binding the sick jerk from doing harm. Use thread or string and if you can't burn it then bury it & let it rot.

I suppose it's useless to suggest you tell a school counselor, but I say it.

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Firebird » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:54 am

Your friend would benefit from understanding the dynamics of an abusive relationship. Like Spirit said, only Lola has the ability to change her situation. Gently (and I stress that word "gently") suggest she seek help, find articles about abuse and Stockholm Syndrome and go over them with her. She is likely between a rock and a hard place. She will need your understanding and support and not your insistence that she leave. If the guy is doing illegal things you can report him, get the support of the school counselor. This may all take time, be patient.
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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Keiji » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:35 pm

I tried to talk to her, but then. Yes, Ivan has a lot of private stress at the time and that's why he reacted that way. I think something like: And it justifies people to sleep.
To the idea with the announcement I wrote that I came after 1-2 months the feedback from the police. Was it the second time together that she was suddenly mad at me, that I did that at the time even though she pointed it out. That with the nude pictures was between ad and feedback was not mentioned at her request. And the threat warns me about the policeman, as long as you do not say how to kill the person, that's not punishable. (Thanks German legal system NOT). Everyone here in the BBW has some limitations. I'm an autist (whoever does not take me seriously anymore knows too many clichés), Ivan is an epileptic, and Lola has a malformed right leg with prosthesis and borderline, maybe it could be because she does not recognize it. Although she has often but forgives him too easy. I was hoping I can get them to hate each other again and then I can postpone a curse. There is one with which I have already brought Ivan to the hospital 2 times and even to Lola's request for the second time.

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby SpiritTalker » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:19 pm

You don't sound like the same person. First it's "good intensions" & now it's curses? No thank you.

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Keiji » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:09 am

I want to protect her in every possible Way. And after the break up it will end in some sort of Psychic War again. For her I would do Everything even dying.

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Keiji » Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:46 am

I know it's a Bit drastic. But it would be the best he is getting put of her life forever. And this is maybe the only Way

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby SpiritTalker » Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:15 am

No. There are other ways to view the issue. You could look at it in a bigger picture. On an occult level as souls we choose our own experiences. Lola is playing-out a very common feminine-soul-energy role play where the female tendency is to "mother" the weaker male energy. She makes excuses & forgives so as to make herself feel passively in control when she could choose to let go. Ivan could choose to relieve his stress by taking up jogging or some other physical exertion but instead he chooses to hurt, threaten and demoralize another person to make himself feel actively in control when he could choose to control himself. Together they play out a common passive/active soul-energy pattern.

But you are also in a common soul-energy role play of rescuer or you wouldn't be suffering for lola's repeated choice or make excuses of stress for ivan's repeated choice of unacceptable behavior. If they were strangers to you then you wouldn't feel such anxiety. Your soul-energy is intwined with lola's & through her is also involved with Ivan's. If you curse any, you curse all. Your mutual energies are linked by the emotions. Think about that before you rebut it. The curse only plays out temporarily but the problem repeats and Lola & Ivan get back together and go thru their same issues because the passive/active energies within their soul-natures aren't balanced. Creating mutual hate only adds fuel & more unbalanced energy.

Magic is energy. Aiding balance is the kind of magical energy that will lastingly aid the situation. Ask yourself what you can do energetically to balance the equation. That is the kind of spell work that is helpful in the long run. Good magic bumps things into position to resolve themselves.

If Ivan is restrained (re: 9-knot spell) then they won't be able to play out their passive/active control roles. They'd eventually lose interest in each other, but will probably create the same problems with someone else if they don't learn the lesson in the situation. Losing interest might nudge things into position to resolve itself or it might only be a temporary fix. It would at least allow opportunity to dis-entwine the emotional energy connections. That can help nudge towards natural resolution over time. It takes courage. To know, to dare, to will, to be silent. We use these every day.

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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby Firebird » Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:11 pm

I fail to see how your dying would help her.
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Re: Break up Spell ( with good intentions )

Postby YanaKhan » Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:48 am

With all due respect, we don't really know you. To me, this thread sounds like you are in love with the girl and will do anything to break her up with her boyfriend. All we have is your side of the story and we can't be positive it's true. Please, believe me when I say, this is not me trying to be rude or nasty, just telling you my opinion.

The only person you can change is you, the only way to influence another without rudely interfering with their life is by talking and hoping you can reason with them. Any type of magick to do that is manipulating and is not fair on them. You may think breaking her up with her boyfriend is for her own good, but it very well may not be. She may need to learn some lessons the hard way and this relationship may be the way to do that.

So, my advice is talking, perhaps offer help and support, listen to her, you may even try reasoning with him, you may be surprised. Best of luck.


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